What If The Dragonborn Died In Helgen? 

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The Dragonborn’s backstory is vague at best, they’re blessed with gifts that set them apart from everyone else, and they just happen to be at the right place at the right time to fight against an ancient evil. But what if the Dragonborn died in Helgen?
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What if the Dragonborn died in Helgen? (in text form)
Because the Dragonborn’s backstory is practically nonexistent due to the player’s choice of what race to make their character needing to make some logical sense in the world of The Elder Scrolls, it’s safe to assume that everything up until you wake up in the cart plays out the same. But things change when you arrive in Helgen. The Headsman’s Axe is moments away from taking off the Dragonborn’s head. The only reason he doesn’t is because of Alduin. But let’s say that the dragon doesn’t show up on time and the Dragonborn is made to be ended.
Maybe because the Dragonborn literally saves the world, you could make the argument that if he ended at Helgen -I’ll be referring to the Dragonborn as a “he” just to keep things simple- the gods would have intervened in some way. But that’s so boring and requires making a monumental assumption.
Let’s instead say that the Dragonborn ends. No resurrections this time. First things first, Helgen still gets beat swiftly by Alduin. And that’s pretty much the TL;DR of this video. Without the Dragonborn, nobody has a chance at stopping Alduin. He fulfills his destiny of destroying the world. That’s it. Full stop. Game over.
The Dragonborn is gone, but there is another dragonborn out and about who could have a role to play: Miraak. During the Dragon War, the same three heroes that fought alongside the Last Dragonborn tried to get Miraak to fight Alduin with them, but he refused. Instead he went off and did his dab thing. This stuff writes itself. The first Dragonborn passed by his first chance to fight Alduin, and now he’s the Last Dragonborn and gets a 2nd chance at taking on the world-eater. Come on, Bethesda, this isn’t that difficult. Not only does Miraak have near unparalleled experience in fighting dragons, but he knows Bend Will, so he won’t have to search for an Elder Scroll. Not to mention the fact that Miraak is supposedly thousands of years old. Now the question becomes: Can Miraak Beat Alduin? And before you leave a comment about buckets or a fork, I want you to know that you’re not as clever as you think you are.


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Mitten Squad
Mitten Squad پیش 6 ماه
I didn’t have time to get another Can You Beat video made after making that Elmo Number Journey video earlier this week, which is why I uploaded this instead. I already had the voiceover and footage. Can You Beat videos will be back next Sunday, hopefully with Doom Eternal.
Darien Schnücker
Darien Schnücker پیش 2 ماه
@Felix Sc what if Harkon and Miraark join forces aginst Alduin the Empire and Stormcloaks?
Ticcboy76 TICC
Ticcboy76 TICC پیش 4 ماه
Can you bet fallout 4 with a flar gun the one you get from prestton
Pedro Xavier
Pedro Xavier پیش 4 ماه
The dragonborn as all es protags has the power over chim, so in theory he could die in helgen it doesnt matter he could use chim to save his skin.
jev پیش 4 ماه
Apparently 342 people knew exactly what wouldbhappen if the dragonborn died
Shreck carson
Shreck carson پیش 6 ماه
I understand because Elmo's number journey, it is literally impossible without killing
Icicleable پیش 17 روز
He would respawn dumbass
S047 پیش 19 روز
If the dragonborn died at Helgen , Skyrims supply of buckets could be forever safe
Paulo Duarte
Paulo Duarte پیش 26 روز
Nota Hooman
Nota Hooman پیش 29 روز
Technically, dragonborns aren't necessarily "born" into the world but rather are just,,, chosen by akatosh. So if you had died at helgen the most likely outcome is some other schmuck being made into a dragonborn and going to kill the big Sky lizard.
Kalender پیش 27 روز
Just like morrowind's lore.
Frezomere Seraphim
Frezomere Seraphim پیش ماه
Actually, Miraak plans on bending the world to his command, so if Alduin tried to threaten that, Miraak wouldnt hesitate to beat the crap out of Alduin. Also the Ebony Warrior is another likely canidate for another dragonborn, but we will never know.
valiroime پیش ماه
On one of my Skyrim runs, my protagonist did die at Helgan after Alduin landed next to her and proceeded to barbecue her arse.
James Jones
James Jones پیش ماه
Ebony warrior?
User Name
User Name پیش ماه
The game would be really short
Jerry Ao
Jerry Ao پیش ماه
"Faithless Imperial dogs"
Qüįłtęd پیش ماه
Bro sounds sick
Juan Becerra
Juan Becerra پیش ماه
Dragonborn dies. Seems like the perfect time for the rise of J’zargo.
Opus Epynomus
Opus Epynomus پیش ماه
So the the dragonborn is basically archduke Ferdinand of tamriel. The one domino🤯
DemonKing19951 پیش ماه
Well, one argument I'd make against this video is that even if the other dragon born couldn't beat the dragon by himself he might have been able to wound him. Which would have prolonged how long it'd take the dragons to end everything. This arguably would have given them far more than a single month to get their shit together and band together against the dragon, and I also disagree Alfric storm cloak would have died a Helgan. Primarily because the only difference here is the dragonborn died, the storm cloaks still make their escape and the only one who arguably wouldn't make it without the dragon born being there is the one you travel with. Not saying they wouldn't still all die, don't have enough research to determine if they'd have a chance with all that taken into account. However if Alfric could somehow broker a peace treaty with empire when they realize just how bad the dragon is going to be (lets assume the other dragon born is still alive and injured himself to relay this) than there's a solid chance you'd get something similar to War Hammer scene. Thousands of storm cloaks and imperials storming a group and falling one by as they try to dismantle their numbers and save the world. Most likely only buying enough time for another dragonborn to rise and eventually save the world.
Franz Volkier Sir Ran
Franz Volkier Sir Ran پیش ماه
Mirak can deffeat Alduin he have higher max level than Alduin one need to kill him more than once to beat him and he will try to stop Alduin because the world being destroyed ruins his plan to rule the world so if the dragon born die Mirak destroy Alduin and then rule the world.
Jai sagar
Jai sagar پیش ماه
Can you beat dying light without any weapons
Asa Flowers
Asa Flowers پیش ماه
he rly said leave a dislike if you didn’t like anything 💀💀
cole privett
cole privett پیش ماه
Alduin isnt evil
Superboss9000 پیش ماه
Simply: Skyrim would be fucked.
DHJEEW پیش ماه
"Forget the list, he goes to the block!" THE END
PastorOfMuppets پیش ماه
If the Dragonborn gets executed at Helgen, they never retrieve the dragonstone from Bleak Falls Barrow so they never bring it to Farengar, and thus dragons never spawn.
Jacob Robino
Jacob Robino پیش ماه
Miraak escapes & beats the tits off of both Alduin and Harkon, hopefully before the latter blots out the sun. Bend Will is overpowered. After Miraak gets all dragons, humans, and vampires on his side, Alduin is left with... draugr? Yeah, those are getting torched, and unlike humans they don't replace themselves every 20 years. The only thing setting Miraak back is that he may never bother to learn Dragonrend. He can probably beat Alduin with the help of dragons on Nirn and the ancient tongues in Sovngarde.
David Clark
David Clark پیش ماه
No one is equipped to deal with a dragon without the dragon born. Yet I've put the controller down and watched the white run guards beat the whiterun dragon many times... Any city with a few archers are more than a match for most dragon.
collin music
collin music پیش ماه
Wouldn't akatosh just choose a new hero to give the dragonborn blessing to
Vaporous Elm993
Vaporous Elm993 پیش ماه
Maybe I'm the dragonborn I just don't know yet
Golden Supernova
Golden Supernova پیش ماه
The Ebony warrior would kill him easy with the help of the grey beards
Akevo پیش ماه
If the dragon born was killed then there wouldent be any dragons cause you need to go to whitrun to flick the on switch for dragons
gamingspacemonkey پیش ماه
I think humanity has a ghost of a chance. You don’t need a Dragonborn to “kill” a dragon, you just need a Dragonborn to make sure you kill ‘em right. If a bunch of people with swords hit a dragon good and hard enough it would fall to the ground, able to be resurrected later. And since Alduin is poking around Sovingard I suspect a bunch of legendary hero’s might be inclined to wack him with sharp sticks until he dies, or reaches one health and stays completely still. Especially considering they’d probably be more likely than normal to hear from gods, and might know that backup ain’t coming to help finish the job.
Brony Saiyan
Brony Saiyan پیش ماه
But Mitton... Kids and barbus are immortal they'd eventually win again Alduin :^)
Alicia Sword
Alicia Sword پیش ماه
So basically if Miraak fails or doesn’t actually fight, everybody dies. But if he does fight and wins. Everybody lives.
songbird 64
songbird 64 پیش ماه
See, here’s another issue. Alduin is actually “rebelling” against his own destiny by trying to take over humanity again. Theoretically, if he wanted to just assume what he needed to do and started to eat the world, he wouldn’t need to resurrect the other dragons. He does, though, because he wants to restore the old days, and be ruler of the world again. This is the REAL reason why it’s required that the Dragonborn put him down. Everyone has the mindset that the Dragonborn should stand aside and let Alduin destroy the world, but he isn’t trying to destroy the world, just conquer it. So, tl;dr humanity wouldn’t be destroyed, just enslaved. Take your pick for which ones worse.
Crunchy Carrot
Crunchy Carrot پیش ماه
If Alduin waited we’d be gone
Asriel Dreemurr
Asriel Dreemurr پیش ماه
Someone needs to make this a mod
LunarX پیش ماه
Delphine: *watches a big evil scary looking dragon speak a dead tounge and raises a dragon from the dead then goes away* *"Ah yeah, it's the thalmor. They definitely brung the dragons back. Sooooo go sneak into this party to see if I'm wrong"*
samurai2871 پیش ماه
All Alduin would have to do to be killed is attack a single chicken.
EliTe Leviathan
EliTe Leviathan پیش ماه
Actually if you think about it every body would have died in helgon meaning storm cloaks white gold concordant and imperial leaders would have died leaving skyrim rulerless, so...... The war would have ended after because most of the jarls just wanted peace meaning the war would end the blades would soon find out the grey beards true leader so they would ultimitly get marked by parthanax and the greybeards. So basically if the dragon born died then the gods would lies faith in skyrim and let alduin win.
Jack the Gamer Minifigure
There is another. The ebony Warrior.
AtomBacon پیش ماه
I clicked on this video expecting it to be you trying to die during the intro without the game resetting or some weird glitchy bs.
Jason's yugiohchannel
Jason's yugiohchannel پیش ماه
If your character got executed in Helgen The Game Wouldn't exist good video dude
Shoddy Peasant
Shoddy Peasant پیش ماه
Braeden Tiemann
Braeden Tiemann پیش ماه
Paul. Can you beat the batman arkham series no damage run? I expect to see your reply soon Kisses 😘 P.s if I've learned anything in this god forsaken land that is youtube it is thar commenting on every video is the best way to get your attention 👀
Saint row God
Saint row God پیش ماه
I killed the 2nd Dragonborn 🤔
Stephen Griffiths
Stephen Griffiths پیش ماه
Seems like a very long-winded way of stating the obvious. Some things 'go without saying' and this is one of them. Without the dragonborn, i.e. removing the protagonist, you're left with an unbalanced story with quite the obvious landslide ending. Nothing more needed to be said. Seems like a complete waste of breath.
Ps Now
Ps Now پیش ماه
Jesus is coming soon have belief and faith and trust in him
Shy Guy
Shy Guy پیش ماه
My game glitched one time and the dragon never came and the executioner just stood there. So the answer is the executioner looks at you in uncomfortable silence until you reset the game. Lol
Noah Tackett
Noah Tackett پیش ماه
I had a harder time killing Miraak than Alduin tbh
African Warlord
African Warlord پیش ماه
My boy miraak is going to kill alduin with a lurkers pp
Julian B
Julian B پیش ماه
I love playing as Khajiits and I almost always side with the Stormcloaks lol
James Shields
James Shields پیش ماه
0:29 wobble wobble wobble
James Shields
James Shields پیش ماه
4:23 delphine in riften?
joe grimes
joe grimes پیش 2 ماه
Skyrim Sean bean edition
arji foxy
arji foxy پیش 2 ماه
Well goodluck with dragon apocalypse
Bleach پیش 2 ماه
Small Fry
Small Fry پیش 2 ماه
“First thing’s first: Helgen still gets fucked hard by Alduin. That’s the TL;DR of it” Well I got what I came for
a veggie
a veggie پیش 2 ماه
skyrim is doomed end of story
Lucca Medeiros
Lucca Medeiros پیش 2 ماه
The Rieklings would defeat Alduin for sure
MustyBusty پیش 2 ماه
My man said Riften instead of Riverwood
hulCAWmania Universe Of 田中
Ulfric Stormcloack
Micheal Xlr
Micheal Xlr پیش 2 ماه
Alduin wins, eats everything, the kalpa ends and a new one begins. Lord knows Bethesda could use a reset themselves too so he should eat them up as well.
Azure پیش 2 ماه
Miraak would kill Alduin and Miraak would eat the worlds ass.
Mad Max Rockatansky
Mad Max Rockatansky پیش 2 ماه
Do other what ifs: What if The Hero of Kvatch was killed instead of the Emperor. What if The Nerevarine failed the trials... For Arena and Daggerfall, Idk much the plot, but do a what if the hero failed to live or something... What if The Courier didn't survive the headshot... What if The Overseer of Vault 101 managed to murder The Lone Wanderer... What if The Sole Survivor woke up one year too late... Also, for the classics, what if water chip of Vault 13 never malfunctioned... And what if The Chosen One died in the Temple of Trials...
Ethan Garland
Ethan Garland پیش 2 ماه
Short story we’re fucked
Lando 9128
Lando 9128 پیش 2 ماه
You said the gods coming in and saving the Dragonborn was a big assumption but isn’t this entire video one big assumption
Timothy Williams
Timothy Williams پیش 2 ماه
Thing is dragons in skyrim.... kinda suck. They're not that strong as to be immortal. Maybe alduweener is an exception but though tout TES lore dragons have been kept as pet/companions or killed by average joe. The ancient nords with iron tools killed dragons by the dozens eliminating them all and note this seems to have been without the help of any other race. The dwemer apparently didn't consider dragons a big enough threat to kill them.
Payton Miller
Payton Miller پیش 2 ماه
I feel like for no info to back this up akatosh would’ve had to make an appearance, now hold it I know your making that face just wait a minute Daedric Princes are basically gods right? (Like fr idek tbh) so if Akatosh pulled a Herma Mora made a whole dimension just to bring a person and make them Dragonborn to take the players place
Pratik Pattnaik
Pratik Pattnaik پیش 2 ماه
Miraak would've saved the world. Easily. Would've completed all evil side quests too. Then after getting bored with killing people and constant frustration from Delphine, Nazeem and Braith, he would've finally took an arrow to the knee and left Skyrim to feature for TESVI in future Edit: BTW, the narrator's voice is so similar to Anonymous.
Nicky the Knight
Nicky the Knight پیش 2 ماه
Everyone dies. There, just saved you 10 mins
1Putin پیش 2 ماه
if dragonborn will die in Helgen, the video game will simply load and make you to progress the level all over again, what kind of stupid question is this?
Mr. M
Mr. M پیش 2 ماه
Fallout Font in a Skyrim video? WTF...
Philip Rößler
Philip Rößler پیش 2 ماه
yeah the imperials almost ended the world with that execution. so everybody who chose them: you suck!
Tyler LePage
Tyler LePage پیش 2 ماه
It have a mod having Dragonborn died in the beginning of the game
MysteryG 77
MysteryG 77 پیش 2 ماه
You wouldn't have a storyline
ITZMrBlue پیش 2 ماه
but then there would be no story.
Jotaro Kujo
Jotaro Kujo پیش 2 ماه
1:31 pause here
Nieroshai پیش 2 ماه
The dragonborn has a dragon soul. The dragonborn will just respawn, because Miraak hasn't noticed them yet and so can't eat their soul. So a beheaded dragonborn is just a dragonborn with a different intro scenario.
Gavin Owens
Gavin Owens پیش 2 ماه
What if the dragon born before he entered helgen and he already new about him. Being a dragon born and he had kids the kids cant be killed so they can do everything for the dragon born
Sean Dark
Sean Dark پیش 2 ماه
One thing that could actually turn that all around are the Psijc
TheLifeLaVita پیش 2 ماه
It would just be the same as the old war, but this time alduin will kill paarturnax pretty early to not make him help the humans, until another dragon turns on alduin and war again.
Simon Plutowski
Simon Plutowski پیش 2 ماه
Sounds about right, little haze around the miraak but I honestly agree
Dinah پیش 2 ماه
Sheogorath (because he finds humans so fun), Sanguine, Azura, Meridia, Malacath, Are the Daedra who wouldn't put up with the world ending. Zenitar, Mara, Dibella, STENDARR... These beings would not tolerate Alduin ending the world. Possibly even Shor would join in, due to being offended by Alduins actions in sovngarde. Julianos is a solid maybe. But my point is, Alduin couldn't possibly stop all of these beings. Making an enemy of them, would almost ensure Alduin would fail. There is a chance Peryite would assist Alduin, but still that's not enough. Combined, they would create EASILY massive, indestructible chains or something, that wrap Alduin until he is a big ball of NOPE. Alduin never stood a chance.
Henry Pierce
Henry Pierce پیش 2 ماه
Summary: alduin wins and destroys everything
Logan Morgan
Logan Morgan پیش 2 ماه
30 hours for the main story? I beat every main and quest (dark Brotherhood, thieves guild, mage guild,etc) in 32 hours
Antivaluvian پیش 2 ماه
I wonder if the Nerevarine or the Hero of Kwatch/Sheogorath could possibly help in this situation
MVQlech_67 پیش 2 ماه
Meh I've fought bandits harder than Alduin
lamebubblesflysohigh پیش 2 ماه
I know a guy who could beat Alduin, but he took an arrow to the knee :(
Collin Caperton
Collin Caperton پیش 2 ماه
I believe just because of destiny bullshit if the dragon born died at helgen a new person would be chosen to be dragon born that or the aldmeri dominion could if they mustered all their men along side the empire might be able to take on Aldrin and the dragons
Charger Mike
Charger Mike پیش 2 ماه
What would have happened if Skyrim was taken by storm cloaks and decided to end cyrodiil.
Crywand پیش 3 ماه
BUT, Lorhan doesn't need to choose the main character of skyrim, dragonborn is not a person, it's an avatar of lorhan, and there's a huge chance for lorhan to choose other guy as his avatar
Cody Last Name
Cody Last Name پیش 3 ماه
What If the Dragonborn died in Helgen? Well, then Skyrim would be a very short game.
Mats Karlsson
Mats Karlsson پیش 3 ماه
Ulfric would not necessarily have died at Helgen. If the Dragonborn died He would most probably escape in the commotion anyways. If Alduin did NOT show up in Helgen however.... Game Over World right there. (not sure Ulfric could defeat Alduin anyways so kind of a pointless argument)
LeadGamer X01
LeadGamer X01 پیش 3 ماه
but mirak is a slave for hemaous mora so he couldn't fight alduin even if he wanted to
Merican پیش 3 ماه
Bandit: *Sees the db slicing through countless thalmor soldiers* Also Bandit: "Yeah boss, let's mug him!"
Chris bromley-west
Chris bromley-west پیش 3 ماه
well people assume alduin wants to end the world.. but all he does is attempt revive his government and eat people's souls after they die. alduin would probably just bring back the mythic era, miraak's endgoal is to return to tamriel, which he will do to find a world almost identical to the one he left, except this time he's a traitor and a threat, from there there is one of two possible outcomes. he dies and gets his soul devoured, eventually leading to Alduin assuming Akatosh's Lordship which may result in the end of the world. or Miraak slays Alduin, likely not in skuldafen, devours his soul and instead of "woo you saved the day" it's more like "under new management" with miraak devouring Alduin's soul, he inherrets Alduin's destiny which may result in the end of the world.
Noob Saibot
Noob Saibot پیش 3 ماه
The question is: Can Miraak use "Ziil los di du" on Alduin?
Pat Cass
Pat Cass پیش 3 ماه
So this means that Dragonborn dies = everyone dies
Lord of Shades
Lord of Shades پیش 3 ماه
My man Dovah'kin killed the world eater in basically two months
Argonwolfproject پیش 3 ماه
Alduin: "Wh-WHAT THE FUCK GUYS? How am I supposed to undeadify my dragon army if there aren't any skeletons to raise?" People of Skyrim: "haha dragonbone mace go clink"
Ja Ma
Ja Ma پیش 3 ماه
Ok for the sake of argument lets say the last dragon borne was actually the one that unleashed alduin thats why he didnt want to help and there are no dragons until you help delphine so what if ya actually on acid after you touch the tablet
Dennis Prager
Dennis Prager پیش 3 ماه
35? I remember my 2nd play through years ago I did the main quest in somewhere around 5 hours
_Mak0 پیش 3 ماه
Alduin: haha bitch I'm gonna eat u Exacutor: ok you can do that after I exacute this person. Alduin: WAIT NO- *Explosion and everyone dies* *The fucking end.*
RandomThought پیش 3 ماه
Wait...YOU were the dragonborn too? So was I! There has to be at least 1,000 people in Skyrim...the odds of BOTH of us being the dragonborn is like 1000 X 1000!
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